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Kyle Vanderburg, DMA

Composer in Residence / Asst. Prof. of Practice 
Challey School of Music 
North Dakota State University

Music Ed. 115C / Dept. 2540, PO Box 6050 / Fargo ND 58108-6050

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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr">From: Burns, Kelly <kelly.w.burns@ndsu.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 12:46 PM 
To: Vanderburg, Kyle <kyle.vanderburg@ndsu.edu>; Moe, Charlette <charlette.moe@ndsu.edu>; Iverson, Jacoba <jacoba.iverson@ndsu.edu>; Wottrich, Tyler <tyler.wottrich@ndsu.edu>; Law, William <bill.law@ndsu.edu> 
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Hi everyone,
 

I wasn’t sure exactly what Catherine’s experience
 has been other than I know that her classroom teaching has been significant and successful. I asked her to send me her CV and I have attached it for you all to look at.
 

According to her CV, she has taught both first- and second-year music theory and ear training several times, both at NDSU and at SDSU. She’s also taught numerous
 undergraduate- and graduate-level seminars at NDSU in voice related courses such as pedagogy, opera literature, and diction. She was the recipient of the Outstanding Graduate Student Teacher in 2018. 
 

Her dissertation was focused on a song cycle written by Libby Larsen, which featured some analysis in it as the whole document is intended to be a performer’s guide. And she
 has also had quite a few regional and national presentations at various conferences, notably her presentation titled “Dominick
 Argento's Use of Motives and Twelve-tone Techniques in 'From the Diary of Virginia Woolf' that was presented at a regional CMS conference in 2016. 
 

In regards to having a formal credential such as the MM in Theory Pedagogy, she was advised
not to pursue that degree at NDSU by John Miller who apparently told her that she did not need to that credential since her teaching
 experience would be viewed as an “equivalent.” I have no way of verifying this information - it’s just what Catherine has told me on a number of occasions in casual conversations, but perhaps if John doesn’t want to do the graduate course, he might be willing
 to vouch for Catherine’s ability to teach it - or you could move some people around - perhaps Cassie or Will would teach the graduate course and Catherine could teach one of the undergraduate courses.
 

Either way, it does concern me that there seems to be one set of “requirements” for who will teach the graduate theory courses but another set of requirements for who would
 teach the history. It’s not my intent to talk anyone out of a job, because I believe both Catherine and Mara would be excellent in these respective roles. However, I think it’s worth noting that while Mara had a strong dissertation and has some research activity
 in the realm of musicology/music history, the same could be argued for Catherine in theory. Additionally, Mara has never taught
any course - undergraduate or graduate - in the classroom, whereas Catherine has many years of teaching different courses at both levels (and has won awards that I assume were supported/nominated
 from our own School). My opinion is that we need to hold the staffing options for both to the same standard. 
 

Thanks,
Kelly
 

 


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KELLY W. BURNS, DMA

Associate Professor of Voice

Director of NDSU Opera

Challey School of Music

NORTH DAKOTA STATE UNIVERSITY

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</a>Vanderburg, Kyle <kyle.vanderburg@ndsu.edu> 
Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2025 at 1:28 PM 
To: Burns, Kelly <kelly.w.burns@ndsu.edu>, Moe, Charlette <charlette.moe@ndsu.edu>, Iverson, Jacoba <jacoba.iverson@ndsu.edu>, Wottrich, Tyler <tyler.wottrich@ndsu.edu>, Law, William <bill.law@ndsu.edu> 
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Sure—I can't speak in depth to Cassie's concerns because she's at IMC this week, but she says Catherine is not a graduate level analyst. 

 

For my concerns, I don't know Catherine's history all that well, but I haven't seen paper evidence that she's qualified to teach a graduate theory course. For the current Theory faculty, Cassie and Will have Master's
 degrees in theory pedagogy, I have 18-ish grad credits in theory, and Tyler is Tyler. With what I have available to me, I'm seeing that Catherine took 6 credits of theory here (counterpoint and analytical techniques), and she would have been required to take
 a 3-credit "Perspectives of Music Theory" course at UND (per <a href="https://und-public.courseleaf.com/archives/2011-2013_UND_Academic_Catalog.pdf" data-outlook-id="538e8963-7c0a-4152-b177-f41ea7194e5d" style="color:blue; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">https://und-public.courseleaf.com/archives/2011-2013_UND_Academic_Catalog.pdf</a>,
 page 374). 

 

Willing to revisit if you have additional information regarding Catherine's qualifications.

 

I realize that a similar argument can be made against Mara teaching graduate history. However, Mara's research record (Hugo Daffner; Holocaust non-survivor poetry lecture-recital) makes a compelling case under policy
 309, section 2.1. 

 

-Kyle
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Kyle Vanderburg, DMA

Composer in Residence / Asst. Prof. of Practice 
Challey School of Music 
North Dakota State University

Music Ed. 115C / Dept. 2540, PO Box 6050 / Fargo ND 58108-6050

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From: Burns, Kelly <kelly.w.burns@ndsu.edu> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2025 11:20 AM 
To: Moe, Charlette <charlette.moe@ndsu.edu>; Vanderburg, Kyle <kyle.vanderburg@ndsu.edu>; Iverson, Jacoba <jacoba.iverson@ndsu.edu>; Wottrich, Tyler <tyler.wottrich@ndsu.edu>; Law, William <bill.law@ndsu.edu> 
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May I ask what the concerns are for Catherine?

 

Kelly
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KELLY W. BURNS, DMA
Associate Professor of Voice
Director of NDSU Opera
Challey School of Music
NORTH DAKOTA STATE UNIVERSITY
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From: Moe, Charlette <charlette.moe@ndsu.edu> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2025 9:14 AM 
To: Vanderburg, Kyle <kyle.vanderburg@ndsu.edu>; Iverson, Jacoba <jacoba.iverson@ndsu.edu>; Wottrich, Tyler <tyler.wottrich@ndsu.edu>; Law, William <bill.law@ndsu.edu>; Burns, Kelly <kelly.w.burns@ndsu.edu> 
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Thank you, Kyle, for sending the email. I was wondering if Catherine had a degree that would qualify her to teach a graduate theory course. I believe that in our NASM report, they look for qualifications which align
 with courses, especially at the graduate level?
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From: Vanderburg, Kyle <kyle.vanderburg@ndsu.edu> 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 4:31 PM 
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Cassie and I have briefly discussed the possibility of Catherine teaching Form and Analysis, and we have reservations about Catherine teaching a grad theory course.

 

If that's direction we need to go for staffing reasons, it may make more sense to juggle the theory assignments this fall and have Will or me take the topics course, and have Catherine cover theory I or III. 

 

-Kyle
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Composer in Residence / Asst. Prof. of Practice 
Challey School of Music 
North Dakota State University

Music Ed. 115C / Dept. 2540, PO Box 6050 / Fargo ND 58108-6050

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From: Iverson, Jacoba <jacoba.iverson@ndsu.edu> 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 3:30 PM 
To: Wottrich, Tyler <tyler.wottrich@ndsu.edu>; Law, William <bill.law@ndsu.edu>; Moe, Charlette <charlette.moe@ndsu.edu>; Burns, Kelly <kelly.w.burns@ndsu.edu>; Vanderburg, Kyle <kyle.vanderburg@ndsu.edu> 
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Below is a summary of next steps from the meeting. Please let me know if I misunderstood anything or how I can help at all,  

 

 
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<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Bib/research course addition for Fall 25, if not will be Spring?</li><ul style="margin-top:0in; margin-bottom:0in">
<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">We will know next steps once Tyler talks to Annette</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">General consensus was that Annette would be great for it, we just have to clearly and intentionally communicate expectations so there is no scope creep.</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Students who need it?</li><ul style="margin-top:0in; margin-bottom:0in">
<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Not Incoming voice students</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">2 incoming Instrumental</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Piano students?</li><ul style="margin-top:0in; margin-bottom:0in">
<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Tyler checking on that in their transcripts</li></ul>
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<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Mara for music hist in Spring 26</li><ul style="margin-top:0in; margin-bottom:0in">
<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Tyler is going to talk to her about it</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">It was agreed that she would do good and we would like to move forward with her if possible</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Jacoba sent the most recent hist offerings to Tyler and he will decide which one should be offered next.</li><ul style="margin-top:0in; margin-bottom:0in">
<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Fall 2024 Medieval/Ren Music History </li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Spring 2024 Contemp</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Spring 2023 Romantic</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Spring 2022 Medieval/Ren was offered but no one took it</li><li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Fall 2021 Baroque/Classical Offered</li></ul>
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<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Possibility to cancel section 1 of DMA Thesis for Fall</li><ul style="margin-top:0in; margin-bottom:0in">
<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">We will know more about this once Tyler talk to Annette</li></ul>
<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Form & Analysis in Fall 25</li><ul style="margin-top:0in; margin-bottom:0in">
<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">John Possibly, if not him, then possibly Catherine</li><ul style="margin-top:0in; margin-bottom:0in">
<li style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif; font-size:10pt; margin:0in">Tyler will follow up with John early next week to see if he has a firm decision. If he says no, then Tyler will possibly contact Catherine</li></ul>
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